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Posted 7/27/2009 3:47:38 PM
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Grandparents gift $500,000 to grandchild and his wife to buy house in 2008. Grandmother has been in bad health for years.  I was going to file only one 709 for the grandfather, and have it so that the grandmother gifted $12,000 each to kids, and grandfather gifted 476,000, of which $452,000 would be subject to gift tax. (This would be the first such gift so no tax due)

I thought this would be wise as then if grandmother died, a full $3.5M could go to bypass trust. If the gift was split, then this amount would have to be reduced by $226,000.  This assumes that in the future the exemption amount will go up above $3.5M, for when Grandfather dies.

Is this thinking correct, and can this be done in light of CA community property rules.Thank you very much

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Posted 7/27/2009 8:11:04 PM
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If the gift was community property, I am not aware of an option to report it on one return and not the other. This contrasts with the option to split separate property gifts between spouses.

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Posted 7/30/2009 9:02:42 AM
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i guess if they really want to do this (not sure that i would), they could first transmute a portion of community property to separate property- might be reportable, but would be fully exempt between spouses. so first a gift from one spouse to the other then the subject gift...
again, not sure that i would do this...

John Jacobson (7/27/2009)
If the gift was community property, I am not aware of an option to report it on one return and not the other. This contrasts with the option to split separate property gifts between spouses.


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